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New Zealand First has introduced a member's bill to Parliament which would define in law what a woman is - but is this really necessary?
Also, Pope Francis has died at the age of 88. What's his legacy, and what do you hope to see in the next Pope?
To answer those questions, PSA national secretary and former Wellington City Councillor Fleur Fitzsimons and Franks Ogilvie director and political commentator Brigitte Morten joined Nick Mills for Thursday Faceoff - moved forward due to ANZAC Day.
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