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A successful Wellington business owner says if he were starting again today, he wouldn't start his business in Wellington.
"Whether you should do it in Wellington though, I would say no. I think Wellington is actually talent repellent system at the moment," Raygun founder John-Daniel Trask told Nick Mills.
"We’ve had people in our own organisation who have left and said I’m going to places like Auckland because they are so tired – their own words – of the abject wokeness that is in this city."
Trask's business sells software that monitors other software for faults, with 93% of its customers based overseas. The company employs 25 staff in Wellington.
Also joining Trask was Jugnu's Little India founder Jugnu Gill.
Gill owns three of the Indian restaurants across Wellington, having opened his first restaurant in the city in 1997.
"Wellington is not in good shape. There are very few places that are doing really well in Wellington at the moment," Gill said.
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