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Govt process on Treaty bill ‘fundamentally flawed’, former PM Sir Geoffrey Palmer says

Author
Julia Gabel,
Publish Date
Thu, 13 Feb 2025, 1:18pm
Act Party leader David Seymour. Photo / Dean Purcell
Act Party leader David Seymour. Photo / Dean Purcell

Govt process on Treaty bill ‘fundamentally flawed’, former PM Sir Geoffrey Palmer says

Author
Julia Gabel,
Publish Date
Thu, 13 Feb 2025, 1:18pm

Former Prime Minister Sir Geoffrey Palmer says David Seymour鈥檚 controversial Treaty Principles Bill is damaging the 鈥渃ollective fabric of our nation鈥 and the Government has not followed the correct legislative process in introducing it.

The bill seeks to replace the Treaty principles, such as Partnership, which have been developed over time by the courts and Waitangi Tribunal, with three new ones and enshrine them in law. Seymour says the bill would provide certainty and clarity around the principles, and prompt a national conversation about their place in our constitutional arrangements.

Palmer, who served as Prime Minister under the Labour Government from 1989 for about a year, told Parliament鈥檚 select committee a constructive and good-faith conversation was appropriate in light of the country鈥檚 history 鈥 but it needed to be approached with the 鈥渦tmost care and respect鈥.

鈥淭hose issues warrant a thorough and considered process, involving public education, engagement and consultation. Process is everything.

Sir Geoffrey Palmer and Karen Feint KC. Photo / Julia Gabel
Sir Geoffrey Palmer and Karen Feint KC. Photo / Julia Gabel

鈥淚 wish to argue in front of you that the process that led to this bill鈥檚 introduction was fundamentally flawed compared to the processes that are used that lead to legislation customarily in this house.鈥

He said orthodox policy processes would normally involve in-depth analysis before decisions were made, policy options would be analysed, there would be inter-departmental consultation and discussions, and M膩ori would be consulted.

鈥淚nstead, what we have seen is a bill that has clogged up the House with more than 300,000 submissions it is said, wasted a tremendous amount of time and money and damaged the collective fabric of the nation. We really need to learn from this,鈥 Palmer said.

In her opening remarks, former National Minister Hekia Parata acknowledged the thousands of people who marched in protest to Parliament, despite also having their home demands.

She said the bill was 鈥渋rretrievably flawed鈥 and should be voted down.

鈥淚nstead, I recommend our focus should be on establishing the conditions for Te Tiriti o Waitangi to be honoured in modern and forward-looking ways as the original signatories anticipated for all of us.鈥

Parata said there had been a 鈥減ersistent conflation鈥 of the collective rights held by iwi and hap奴 and tangata whenua and the individual citizen rights that M膩ori have, which has led to people misunderstanding the purpose of the Treaty.

Former National Party Minister Hekia Parata. Photo / Julia Gabel
Former National Party Minister Hekia Parata. Photo / Julia Gabel

鈥淚t is the persistent failure of public policy and management that creates many of the misunderstandings New Zealanders have.鈥

She referenced foreshore and seabed legislation as an example.

鈥淭hose beaches on the Tair膩whiti were considered by Ng膩ti Porou to belong to them, as do Ng膩puhi in Northland. They were never a citizen鈥檚 right in the sense of the foreshore and seabed policy.

鈥淭hose [issues] have seen marches up and down our country as well, and that will continue unless we really tackle this issue of the definition of rights and the rights holders and circumstances in which those can be exercised, which by the way we do for every other public policy and public management issue.鈥

Opponents also included former mayor of New Plymouth and self-confessed 鈥渞ecovering racist鈥 Andrew Judd, who said there was a lack of education among P膩keh膩 and the bill was leading to division.

鈥淲e haven鈥檛 moved on from anywhere. Cook may as well have arrived yesterday. This is so, so divisive and sad,鈥 Judd said.

Julia Gabel is a Wellington-based political reporter. She joined the Herald in 2020 and has most recently focused on data journalism.

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